[voqv]

> "All the problems associated with" what?

Economic challenges of quickly building grid-scale battery storage , battery production for the entire globe, NIMBY's etc.

> Modern batteries don't burst into flame

they literally do

> the overwhelming bulk of storage is not batteries

Well overwhelming bulk is a high bar and storage is geography dependent. Germany f.e. can't build as much pumped storage as Australia and Australia built a large amount of battery storage vs PSH.

[Brometheus]

Germany can has and will very well be building hydrogen and compressed air storage.

[voqv]

Well they certainly say they will, not sure about the rest.

[moloch-hai]

Germany has an overabundance of hills. Most places do. But pumped storage is just one of many options

Modern batteries do not burn. Teslas do.

[MaxBarraclough]

It's a problem with lithium batteries in general, not just Tesla.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/recycling-firm-fined...

[moloch-hai]

Lithium-ion batteries burn. But the topic was "modern batteries", which at the instant moment means LiFeP batteries, not "previous-generation batteries".

Lithium is anyway not favored for use in utility-scale storage, where its light weight offers no compelling value. Up-and-coming chemistries include iron-air (no explosions), calcium-antimony (no explosions), and bromine-zinc (no explosions). Hundreds of other chemistries are available.

[voqv]

> an overabundance of hills.

That's not sufficient for pumped storage at scale, but Germany is mostly focusing on hydrogen for now.