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by pannSun 1284 days ago
This has been standard operating procedure at Twitter long before Musk: https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-censors-all-links-to-bitch...

And at Google as well: https://reclaimthenet.org/google-play-bans-bitchute-app/

Edit: And at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/comments/ktwypc/warning_re...

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What's the connection you're making between Mastodon and BitChute? I'm missing it.
I think the idea is that BitChute tries to position itself as an alternative to YouTube, and Google (as the owner of YouTube) is doing its damnedest to prevent people from using the alternative. Replace BitChute with Mastodon and Google/YouTube with Twitter and its a similar pattern.
Sure, but the commenter said that this has been operating procedure for Twitter. But that does not seem to be true -- mastodon links have not been (soft) censored up until this point.
I was responding to the question about what link OP was trying to draw between BitChute and Mastodon, no idea at all about the second question re censoring Mastodon links on Twitter.

But again, responding to your parallel comment, OP is not saying that BitChute is a competitor to Twitter. It's that entrenched player <a> is (soft) censoring new competitor <b> where <a>, <b> are filled in with (Google/YT, BitChute) and (Twitter, Mastodon).

That's the most charitable read I could come up with, too. It's such a tenuous connection, though, that one wonders why it's even worth mentioning in this context.
Censoring competition/alternatives.
That is quite a stretch. Bitchute is video hosting, so it's not a Twitter competitor. And you're ignoring that it's well known as a host for hate speech. [1][2]

[1] https://www.adl.org/blog/bitchute-a-hotbed-of-hate [2] https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2021/02/24/the...

Mastodon is also known for hate speech, with whole instances seemingly devoted to it.

Meanwhile, the ADL is also well known to push an agenda far beyond addressing hate speech, acting as an apologist for crimes against humanity in service to Israel's colonial regime.

Some people in Texas have been known to be outspoken with their hateful views; does that make Texas a host for hate speech too?

I hope you warmed up before stretching like that, as I'm afraid you'll hurt yourself.

I agree with you that the ADL's recent Israel positions are often short-sighted and terrible. But their century of tracking and fighting hate is solid work, and even if you didn't want to listen to them here, plenty of other groups agree with them on Bitchute. I even linked to one of them for you.

As to the rest, I'm not even sure what your point is. If you figure one out, let me know.

And the internet isn't print journalism, yet it struck a near-fatal blow to newspaper budgets. That's the economic side of it. The other side is, as you say, established media discreetly [1] censoring alternatives that don't toe the line. But I don't care to have my web browsing be censored by the ADL, no matter how they justify it.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/comments/ktwypc/warning_re...

All this Reddit/Bitchute/newspaper stuff is a non sequitur — we're talking about Twitter and Mastodon, not any of those other things. Censoring Mastodon is a new policy under Elon.

The point of the "hate speech" comment is that there's a plausible reason to suppress Bitchute that doesn't involve stifling competition (especially because, as GP mentioned, Bitchute isn't actually a competitor to Twitter). So it's not even analogous to what's happening here.

> we're talking about Twitter and Mastodon, not any of those other things.

I don't view things so narrowly. If you want to limit yourself to only Twitter and Mastodon, you are free to do so, but that does not make similar cases non sequiturs.

Was BitChute a significant Twitter competitor? Or just a far-right propaganda and misinformation outlet?
Sounds like another bias Musk should look into removing.
Seems like censoring a website known for hosting hate speech is a bit different to censoring mastodon
the call is coming from inside the house.