[LatteLazy]

To be clear, I am not straw manning your argument here. I am just asking: who is the expert?

You have assumed it's the farmer. But he just inherited (or rents) some land. And since the majority of his income comes from subsidies, there is no reason to assume he is competent.

On the other hand you have actual experts with real field trial results.

That's my point here.

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I get to decide if you're straw manning my point (you are).

These subsidies were created to affect the behavior of farmers and now there's bitching that farmers want to keep the behavior that most benefits them and people are doing it by trying to argue these farmers are just bad for doing exactly what people initially wanted them to do.

If you think farmers are using the same techniques they were back in 1066 then perhaps you're strawmanning more than just me.