[gytisgreitai]

I have such love and hate relationship with them. They tend to pick interesting topics and invite truly awesome people, but gosh do they both suck as hosts - they often get carried away into their mildly related personal experiences or small talk about nothing

[swyx]

hey gytis, you seem to be brutally honest so i'm curious about your feedback for me

i've been a two time guest on the Changelog (https://changelog.com/person/swyx) and always wondered if i could be doing something better as a guest/speaker. I listen to myself at least 2x every time i'm on and spot a bunch of verbal and factual mistakes but thats only the ones i know about - if you listened to mine (no obligation!) did anything tick you off in particular?

[jerodsanto]

We’re always trying to improve! Do you have any examples of us small talking about nothing? That’d be super helpful to know.

[gytisgreitai]

On top of my head:

- the epbf episode where one of you started talking like back in the old days you treated servers as pets and not as cattle

- the episode about auditing startups where most of the talk you were carried away and even said somethin “let’s continue or we won’t finish” or something

- oh and that Silicon Valley tv show stuff that just keeps popping every other time

It’s like that uncle of mine that I meet every Christmas who is always “back in my days” (I remeber when we…) or “in my old hometown they used to” (here at changelog we…)

but that’s just my personal opinion. Time is scare these days so I’d like to get as much info as possible.

But hey, I’m sure there are millions that adore you, cause in general the guests and topics are great

[jerodsanto]

Thanks, these are good examples! I’m not going to disagree with you on the Silicon Valley references… ;)

[krzysztow]

On the other hand, some of the drift away just shows we're all people. I'm listening podcasts on 1.5-1.7x speed and digressions are all good to me. Keep up the awesome work you do, guys! Real fan of yours!

[fakeempire]

I feel rude even saying this because I like the work you guys do and don't want to bum this person out, but I had to stop listening to the ones with Johnny. He seems to just wax poetically so often. I'm sure hes super nice, but it feels like he talks for the majority of the episode instead of letting the guests and other hosts speak. Every time he has a thought you know your in for a 3 minute spiel.

Sorry, Johnny! It's probably just me.

[s_c_r]

Y’all are one of my favorite podcasts. Loved the vim and neovim episodes. Heroku and Tauri ones too. Keep up the good work.

[jonstewart]

The podcast has grown on me a lot. You and Adam tend to speak with vocal fry, and it comes across as a little bro-y at first.

Really loved the recent episodes with Adam Wiggins.

[hortonew]

That's the beauty of the internet, you're bound to find things you don't like that others have the exact opposite experience with. I find them extremely relatable, fun, and knowledgeable.

[brianzelip]

You replied to a comment about 3 different shows, to which are you referring?

Nonetheless, Changelog has great shows and great hosts and great guests. I listen to _a lot_ of dev related podcasts, and I can assure you, they all have some of the human affects you pointed out.

Changelog definitely rises to the top!

Hi Jerod!

[qbasic_forever]

That's not my impression at all about them--I've been listening to three of their shows for 5 years now. The interviews are top notch and there are rarely episodes without any specific focus.