[expazl]

Where I live people in my generation have been primarily cashless at least the last quarter of a century, and yet we still significantly outrank the US in the freedom indexes, which isn't exactly a high bar these days, but still serves to underline that the typical American centrist argument that using primarily paper cash somehow improves freedom is wrong.

[trafficante]

The major “freedom indices” are polluted neoliberal ideological wankery that shouldn’t be used to settle a bar argument let alone decide that it’s totally fine to do away with large cash transactions.

Even limiting things to strictly “financial freedom” - while more germane to the cashless question and also happen to stick the US above all of Europe save Switzerland - are highly questionable due to the inclusion of weird subjective metrics like “labor regulations = less freedom”

[foxhill]

evidence suggests the optimal amount law breaking is non-zero. that’s going to be very difficult against a regime that can track the movements of all money.

[rootusrootus]

I'd be interested to see what freedoms you think you have that don't exist in the US. This is such a popular thing to say that I imagine it can be easily described.

[bool3max]

"freedom indexes" - get a hold of yourself