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It’s right that most men die before 80, but I agree that if you get there, a high quality of life is still possible. My grandpa in his mid 80s gardens a large area and keeps bees, lives alone, and most impressively to me, fell on ice, got up, and shook it off like he was merely old, and not elderly (walked with a cane for a week after). For some, a fall like that is the beginning of the end. Otoh, his blood pressure is not really controlled, meds + diet usually but not always keep it down, so it could be over for him any unlucky day I guess. Still, hard to ask for better.