[caeril]

The vaccines were never sterilizing. The best estimates I've seen for transmission attenuation are around 15%, primarily due to shortening the duration of being a carrier, with an additional small effect for viral load reduction.

Fifteen percent transmission attenuation is a huge contrast to the public health messaging during much of the vaccination campaign, which was that vaccination would invariably protect the vulnerable. It never did, and public health experts knew it.

Is 15% better than zero? Sure. But to claim that vaccination would protect others is and was a total lie, or if you want to be more charitable, only 85% of a total lie.

[anotherevan]

Sources?

Here's mine for Victoria, Australia: https://n.actionsack.com/covidbaseau/status/1570919765191053...

"When 45% of deaths and 30% of hospitalisations are from a (unvaccinated) group which makes up less than 5% of the adult population, the vaccine is clearly doing its job."

[taolegal]

And what's worse in my opinion is that we're harassing a minority in society over something that seems much less significant (at this point) than the truly beneficial things (universally - not just covid, and that address things that certainly cost the healthcare system much more) like vitamin D sufficiency, regular exercise and healthy diet.