[tricksforfree]

Imagine if you and similar, "driven" folk stayed and made where you're from better.

Imagine if you started small businesses and hired/trained the locals.

Maybe everyone left behind wouldn't have to work at a big box store or just die to reduce the societal burden.

Edit: Not blaming, just food for thought.

[scottLobster]

Imagine if the Saudis grew wheat in the desert! Oh wait they tried that and even with all the capital in the world it wasn't competitive, because it turns out the desert is a horrible environment for growing wheat.

The less fortunate places of today weren't built for no reason, back when they were new there was money to be made to support them. Then economics shifted and there's less money that can be made in that location, so people/businesses move away. Expecting capable people to intentionally stunt their achievements to try and do the equivalent of growing wheat in the desert is just mythologizing places that once served an important economic purpose but no longer do. This notion that you'll never need to adapt to changing circumstances, that there's some sort of societal guarantee of growing old in the same community you grew up in, is incredibly entitled and fundamentally anti-American.

What we need is federally funded moving expenses for lower income earners, that way no one's stuck in a modern-day ghost town.

[emodendroket]

A little fantastical to imagine well-meaning people with zero experience of work are going to fix places that nobody else managed to but hope springs eternal, I guess.

[082349872349872]

Trying to jump-start a modern economy in a place that isn't currently participating in one is difficult, like attempting a breakaway in bike racing. It's a worthy public project, but a risky private one.

[kitsunesoba]

> Imagine if you and similar, "driven" folk stayed and made where you're from better.

> Imagine if you started small businesses and hired/trained the locals.

If I had stayed in my hometown I wouldn't have had the resources to even think about doing those things. The town is in the poor half of a county in a poor state. The best most can hope for out there are part time jobs at grocery stores and fast food restaurants, both paying almost nothing.

I probably could've gotten hired on as a county public school tech which pays decently for the area, but it still would've taken decades to bootstrap the kind of resources required to start a business, because I'd be starting out with almost nothing.

[avgDev]

I grew up in a small city in Poland.

If my parents have not moved to the US. I would've not had good access to a computer as we were relatively poor on the global scale. The stars aligned and I attended a university in the US, where I met influential people who later offered me a job.

I am now in a place where my income allows me to think about paying back.

I am definitely sure I would not have the common sense, the business sense, understanding of self, and the capitol to do anything of value if I have stayed.

[cpsns]

> stayed and made where you're from better.

In my experience this is a recipe for burnout, depression, social ostracization, and the like. Some places are not fixable, many are actively hostile to the idea of change.

A lot of these places were abandoned for a reason, not just because people felt like it one day.

[lukas099]

All else equal I would love to live by all my family and friends, but the fact is that my skills are not as useful there as they are where I live now, so I wouldn't be able to provide as much value to the world if I still lived there.

[SketchySeaBeast]

I'm wondering how a glut of uneducated young adults all trying to start businesses is going to help anything.

[nemo44x]

I'm not sure you realize how hopeless large swaths of the country are. There's simply no coming back in many cases. They just need to slowly die out over a few generations and be given back to nature.