[mrighele]

Getting kids is the best retirement investment that you can do, because they will be there to help you when your physical and mental state will start to degrade.

They will be the ones taking you to doctor for visits, the ones that will keep you from getting scammed from your retirement money, and in general they will help you navigate the future society that will be much different from the current. So even if you hate them, kids is an investment worth considering.

[Copernicron]

Bullshit. There is no guarantee your kids will be there for you in your old age. Just look at all the seniors living in care homes that have no one visiting or sending them presents for Christmas. Perfectly normal parents can raise selfish little shits who abandon them in their old age. And some parents are downright awful to their kids and deserve to be alone.

Anecdotally speaking, my grandfather was an abusive old bastard who drove away his children. He died alone. My own father is selfish, negligent, and arguably emotionally abusive. I’m the only one of his children who talks to him and I only do it a few times per year. I know for a fact none of us are going to take him in when he can’t live on his own anymore.