[merman]

Sorry your Phoenix experience was so bad for you. It's great out here though. Don't know why the top comment is dumping on Phx as if it doesn't have a great road system.

Our grocery options will improve as soon as the german discount chains set

Frys is not more expensive than TJs [0] When you drive east from AZ, you drive past the cheapest gas in the US[1]

[0]https://www.frysfood.com/savings/weeklyad/ [1]https://gasprices.aaa.com/

[bluejekyll]

I think you’re missing the point of the comment. They wanted to live in a more walkable, bikeable, human centered environment that doesn’t require cars to get around.

You’re making the statement that Phoenix is a great place, and a great place to drive, if you don’t mind driving for your errands, etc.

They clearly don’t enjoy needing to drive everywhere, and NYC is a great place to be if you don’t want to have a car centric life.

[merman]

>Though really I think this is an indictment of the current state of Phoenix more than it is a reason to praise Manhattan

They also claim that many other states compare favorably to Phoenix, middle-America states. Suburbia, drive-centric states, like almost all of US.

[ZoomerCretin]

>Don't know why the top comment is dumping on Phx as if it doesn't have a great road system.

They left Phoenix _because_ it is a kind of place with a "great road system." A place is either great to be, or great to drive in, but not both.