[dccoolgai]

Many companies also do things that are a lot worse, like taking massive profits and then laying off the people that gave up time with their families and other opportunities to create those profits. I heard they also do things like give executives that don't do a great job millions while stiffing the individual contributors. Unions can help companies run better by forcing them to take a "longer than 2 year" view on decisions.

[catiopatio]

Unions can also (and quite often do) capture as much value as they can, while producing none.

[kennywinker]

> while producing none

increasing wages, workplace safety, and benefits for workers is something productive.

[ajsnigrutin]

IF they do that.

Lower tax on paychecks would increase wages, but our union was against that. What kind of a union does that?