[drc37]

I’ll give you a hint, the best locations are not in the city. Check out small towns. The people are down to earth. The cost of living is much less and the people are generally awesome to be around. I love in a small farming town and your neighbors would give the shirt off their back to come help you. One of our daughters has to go to the hospital for about a week and we came home to a clean house and meals for a week.

Those who think the city is good place to be, explore a little outside your urban bubble.

In addition to this, we have lots of kids and there are plenty of ways to have kids affordably. You don’t have to send your kids Ivy League schools and if they do, they can get their student loans to pay for it.

Lastly, yes, kids can a source of frustration and pain but they are by the one of the largest sources of joy, pride and happiness in our life. Watching them grow and develop is amazing.

[Kye]

I've done both. I liked being able to walk around an empty little three-street downtown taking pictures of buildings in various states of decay and renewal without anyone bothering me, but it's no way to live. The people you meet are nice until they aren't, and then they can be dangerous. Younger people there are usually better, but they're all trying to get out.

[the_only_law]

> Those who think the city is good place to be, explore a little outside your urban bubble.

And for those that thing “small towns” are some homogenous idyllic 50s family fantasy, be careful. Last one I lived in was a pit of unemployment, methamphetamine and heroin.