[kennend3]

> I think we need to be more critical of what it means to see things "first hand".

I think everyone needs to be more critical of "Shill" accounts such as yours.

You are fast to assume that i did not see it "first hand", slow to realize that this does take place and when provided new information (the lawsuit post) unwilling/unable to incorporate new information into your position.

What value do you feel you are adding to the conversation? You seem to be wearing your McKinsey hat "they never do anything wrong, it is all justified just not at your level"..

[throwaway202212]

By first hand I mean you're the executive paying the bill and understand the motives behind hiring a consulting firm and the incentives such a firm is working under for the client. I'm doubtful most here have that experience (I certainly never did in 20 years of industry before joining a consulting firm). Having McKinsey or BCG walking around your office and telling you what to do is not first hand experience in my opinion.

I'm trying to offer a unique opinion of a software engineer who spent a short time working in this industry. If you're not buying it then no problem.

Personally, I would never invite McKinsey or any of these companies into my own company. But then again I don't run a 100k person company.