[noicebrewery]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some light brigading going on from rivals. There's also some really lazy frontend devs out there that get indignant about testing on Firefox.

Chrome is the new IE and Google is the new Microsoft. They make up their own standards on a whim, which thanks to market dominance everyone is forced to follow. They collect user data without permission. They waste computer resources. They push people towards other Google products in an anti competitive way.

Mozilla has made some dumb mistakes here and there but it pales in comparison to the very serious threat that Chrome, and Chromium in general has to the free web and to users.

It's worth noting that the complaints below have nothing to do with the article, which shows a pretty promising tech, and are just bagging out FF because just as you said, that's what happens on HN.

[radicaldreamer]

It literally takes a few extra minutes to test and fix minor issues on Firefox and Safari. A lot of this incompatibility is laziness or poor process.

[musicale]

One issue that Chrome app developers run into is when Firefox and (especially) Safari don't contain Chrome's latest feature-of-the-week.

[bob1029]

I don't understand how surprising gaps would even emerge if you are using some resource like MDN to guide your efforts.

[stby]

There's really no excuse. When I started web development I had at least 3 browsers open at any given time and writing code that worked in all major browsers could be really difficult at times. In more recent years, I would just develop with one, quickly check if everything looks alright in the other ones, do some super-minor adjustments, and call it a day. Sure, some minor stuff may not be supported by Firefox, but it's never deal-breaking stuff. Safari is the only browser that regularly requires more work, but it's nowhere close to the troubles that every single IE caused.

[Georgelemental]

> Mozilla has made some dumb mistakes here and there but it pales in comparison to the very serious threat that Chrome, and Chromium in general has to the free web and to users.

It is because the threat of a Chrome monopoly is so great, that it's so important to point out Mozilla's many failures, so that they can be corrected before it's too late.

[pessimizer]

> Mozilla has made some dumb mistakes here and there but it pales in comparison to the very serious threat that Chrome, and Chromium in general has to the free web and to users.

The company that owns Chrome is nearly the sole financial support of Firefox.

[morvita]

Which is also based entirely on their market dominance. I'm 100% convinced Google continues handing millions of dollars a year to Mozilla so Google can point at Firefox as competition when the regulators come knocking.

[midoridensha]

I suppose it's better than the alternative...

[Steltek]

I must have missed all that revenue coming to Google from "Chrome+" subscriptions.

Google can't allow Firefox to die because it would raise questions about Google's own funding of Chrome.

[Klonoar]

>I wouldn't be surprised if there was some light brigading going on from rivals. There's also some really lazy frontend devs out there that get indignant about testing on Firefox.

The vitriol comes from people who want Firefox to return to being "just a browser", and to be honest more often than not are the Linux crowd. It's seemingly got nothing to do with rivalry (all the browser vendors are actually fairly chummy with each other) and frontend devs are more likely to just ignore Firefox than to complain about it (IME).

HN has also just become far more vitriol-filled as of late. That's devolving into meta commentary and outside the purposes of this thread, though - just can't leave it uncommented on here.

[throwaway0x7E6]

>I wouldn't be surprised if there was some light brigading going on from rivals.

the opposite is true. a certain group of emotionally invested people will come out of the woods to defend any dumb or authoritarian decision Mozilla makes.

>Mozilla has made some dumb mistakes here and there but it pales in comparison to the very serious threat that Chrome, and Chromium in general has to the free web and to users.

that doesn't give Mozilla a pass. pox on both their houses