[com2kid]

> I don't even want a screen or backup cam.

Backup cams are mount lower and have a wider field of view than people do. They are really effective at keeping drivers from running over children. They are incredibly effective at this. Even in my low to the ground compact car, my backup cam sees things I cannot out my back window.

[guestbest]

I wish I had it on while driving

[dzhiurgis]

Driving a car without a backup cam feels like being blind

[olyjohn]

That's because you really are blind. There is no way to see through or around the huge pillars on modern cars. Also with more modern cars being crossovers or SUVs, your height is also an impedance to rearward visibility.

Drive a car from the 80s and 90s with a big greenhouse. The vehicle brochures back then had visibility as a feature of the car. Car reviewers who cover retro cars talk about this a lot. They are always amazed at how much you can see out of older cars.

[com2kid]

> The vehicle brochures back then had visibility as a feature of the car.

Visibility was a lot better, but little timmy on a tricycle was still hidden behind the rear trunk.

That said, the number of collision avoidance systems needed in modern cars to make up for the giant pillars has gotten out of hand.

[dzhiurgis]

Visibility from a tiny Renault Clio or Kia Picanto is just as shit as others. Stop fetishizing suv hate, it’s ridiculous.