[bryanrasmussen]

>But otoh, as a human, when I hear people complaining about what is basically cleaning after themselves, I cannot feel any empathy.

Cleaning up after yourself is taking the stuff off the top of your desk and putting it in the trash can. Also taking some things like cans and bottles down the hall to the recycling bin.

I could also of course take the bag out of the bin, walk down the hall, walk down two flights of stairs, go out to the garbage area and garbage things myself. There's a difference between the two things.

If everyone is going to the garbage down stairs to throw things out yes it starts to be somewhat inefficient.

>It’s like thinking that Apple loses tons of money every single time Tim Cook needs to clean its desk or needs to do the poo poo

sure, but if Tim Cook needs to take the bag out of the garbage in his office, walk out the office, take elevator downstairs to basement and throw it into the big bins there it might be that his time at that point is worth more to the company. It's really a question as what fragment of time is monetizable, a minute saved here or there is probably unmonetizable waste-time but saving greater than 5 minute increments together starts to be significant.