[clolege]

I was gifted a nice Our Place pan set for Christmas which uses Ceramic nonstick [0]. Ceramic nonstick doesn’t use PFOAs or PTFEs so some people think it’s safe.

From Our Place’s FAQ [1]:

> our Always Pan uses a sol-gel non-stick coating that is made primarily from silicon dioxide which is known in the cookware industry as "ceramic non-stick." It's tested not only to the standards of a ceramic coating (meaning no heavy metals are able to pass through the coating) but also tested to the standards of a polymeric coating (which means that absolutely nothing can pass through the coating).

They seem to be refuting that things can pass through the coating, but isn’t the concern more around the coating itself leaching into the food? And the claims around impermeability of the coating go out the window once it wears down too, right?

I’d love to believe that these pans are safe. But is it just wishful thinking until more extensive testing has been done?

[0] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stick_surface#Ceramic

[1] https://fromourplace.com/pages/faqs

[hedora]

I'm reasonably sure non-stick ceramic pans are unsafe. They are certainly disposable, and misleadingly marketed. Also, the stuff under the coating should be cookware grade iron. It is fine if that leaches through. Why are they concerned about heavy metals leaching through? Is manufacturing leading to lead contamination or something?!?

There is an older technology that involves coating cast iron with actual ceramic. It is non-stick "enough", lasts generations and is safe. Example (high end) manufacturer:

https://www.lecreuset.com/

[musicale]

A pure SiO2 (sand or glass?) non-stick coating seems like it would be reasonably safe.

But "made primarily from" gives me pause since they don't say what the other ingredients are.

[topaz0]

I haven't tried them. I read this profile and decided I never will: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/always-pan-our-pl...