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by lpcvoid 1289 days ago
I have not done any research on this and am genuinely interested - why can I trust the numbers the CCP releases on incarceration rate?
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According to stats there are 1.3 million people incarcerated in China.

If incarceration rates in China were similar to those in USA it should be 10.3 million people. It would be pretty hard to hide them.

USA are by far the number one country in the World for jail population and for incarceration rates, worse even than Putin's Russia.

They would love to share the top step of the podium with someone else if they could prove it.

The most logical explanation is that they can't, because the numbers are probably not true, but not too far from the truth.

Does this include the 12.8 million Uyghurs in China?
Some source to backup this number? Are they actually in prison?

IMO the fact that we should be skeptic about China official stats means that we should also refrain from throwing random numbers at the wall hoping it will make China look bad.

BTW, two wrongs don't make a right, it's not about what they do wrong, it's about what we do better, like for example, is Guantanamo acceptable in a western democracy?

Probably those are not on the “stats”
This is what a walk down the street in Urumqi looks like: [0].

It's possible to talk about Xinjiang without going over into hyperbole.

0. https://youtu.be/_OMaUIC4Om8

Do you seriously believe that all 12.8 million Uyghurs in China are literally imprisoned?