[Qtips87]

If Apple want to exit China for geopolitical reason it should move to Vietnam. Western manufacturers have set up shops in India before and there were few successful stories and many have exit eventually. Ford for example exit India after not turning a profit for decades. When people point out India's problem it is the usual suspect like government red tapes, poor infrastructure, unreliable electric grid...etc. Some even blame India's problem on democracy, which is absurd. Germany is a democracy and is a manufacturing powerhouse. But the fundamental problem underlying all these is the average IQ of a nation. India's population average IQ is 82 and this is the fundamental reason why the workers productivity is so low. This is the elephant in the room that every manufacturer who want to set up shop in a foreign country should consider.

[questime]

I could argue European's have very low IQs relative to access to resources/wealth - it would be equally stupid and racist but I would have better evidence than you to back it up just by looking at how much they get outcompeted by their Indian origin fellow citizens.

[Qtips87]

European outcompeted by their Indian origin fellow citizens? If you people are so great how come India is a shithole?

[questime]

My point is that both ideas are absurd and racist - you claiming that a countries' situation is because of low IQ. You do realize that if you IQ tested people in Europe 100 years ago the results would be godawful right? Believing in genetic superiority/inferiority is extremely low IQ - how do you isolate the million other factors?

[Qtips87]

Stop using racism as an excuse when caste culture runs deep in your country.

[dartharva]

When, how and who measured the IQ of India's population? Where did you get this number from?

[Qtips87]

You can look it up yourself. I don't believe it either at one point and I did some digging and all the evidence points to a low IQ Indian population. There is of course very smart Indians but the distribution of the population as a whole is center around 82.

[throwaway123y]

All Japanese car makers produce and sell/export cars successful for decades. As an American you don't care about facts right? How dumb are you, dude?

[Markoff]

So exist communist China for communist Vietnam, right, that's really an improvement.

Only reason companies are moving from China is because of too high cost already while Vietnam, Indonesia or India are way poorer. Plus if you would read the article you would notice Vietnam is just too small with not enough labor to replace China.

[slaw]

Vietnam with 98 million population is too small? Vietnam is completely different than Indonesia and India. It is like smaller China before Xi took power.

[Markoff]

Read the article before commenting.

[slaw]

> The country has just under 100 million people, less than a 10th of China’s population. It can handle 60,000-person manufacturing sites but not places such as Zhengzhou that reach into the hundreds of thousands, he said.

I disagree that country of 100 million people is not big enough for 300 thousand workers factory.