[Bubble_Pop_22]

That's because Tesla is a company that advertises itself as saving the world, curing cancer, crafting a backup plan for humanity...

Then you see the thing and it's ugly as sin outside, you get inside and it's cheap and empty with an iPad sticked there to save money on components.

The richest country on Earth can't possibly have that as their flagship car brand. China however considering where they were just 15 years ago, you look at a 2022 Geely and it feels like it's attacking the Japanese brands positioning and by the end of the decade they could take on the Germans. They will never be able to attack the Italians but Ferrari and Lamborghini are special and nobody can touch them anyway.

[phlipski]

Lamborghini is German through and through now. VW owns them.

[Bubble_Pop_22]

> Lamborghini is German through and through now

Just because VW has a controlling stake in Lamborghini doesn't make Wolfsburg the capital of supercar design. For a whole bunch of reasons, mostly cultural, it will always be that triangle between Florence, Milan and Turin.

Foxxcon might become big enough to buy Apple one day. Still if you were to visit the 2 HQs, and the 2 cities you'd understand where the devices are designed, regardless of the cap table and who owns who

[Dextro]

Wolfsburg? Doubt it. But Ingolstadt? A bit more likely. The Audi R8 shared quite a bit with one of the Lamborghini models (can't remember the name).

And don't forget the SUVs

[Bubble_Pop_22]

I don't know, when I look at an R8 I can sense that it was designed in Germany, whereas if I look at a Lamborghini Aventador it's clear it was designed in Italy.

The new Corvette C8 feels like it comes from Italy as well. In fact the Corvette has been Ferrari-zed both in external design as well as engine positioning

[djpr]

Stylings and interior obviously differ, but R8 has long shared engines, drive trains, and chasis with Lambos. Engine is from Lambo, but I believe the drive train might be Audi-first?

[Bubble_Pop_22]

Design is the most important thing for a supercar.

The Ferrari 250 GTO is getting smoked by Hyundais and Subarus nowadays.

Of course once you are done showing off you have the small inconvenience that you have to drop down and look at your car near the 250GTO.

Same thing for Teslas

[astrange]

Where does Tesla advertise itself at all?

[Bubble_Pop_22]

Via the loudmouth of the fraudster at the helm