[usr1106]

There is no package for Firefox in Ubuntu 22.04. The package called firefox does not contain a browser, its just transitional for upgrading older versions to snap.

I started to download Firefox from Mozilla. But just because I have not decided yet what distro to use for family computers. Archlinux is fine for me, but not suitable for everyone.

[pessimizer]

Debian is boring, easy, and stable.

[tacker2000]

This!

I was using ubuntu a lot years ago but have now settled on Debian. No annoying crap like this happens there, apt is all i need!

[noisem4ker]

PPA for .deb Firefox (from Mozilla Team): https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

Make sure to pin it and/or neutralize snap so it takes precedence.

[usr1106]

Thanks for the pointer.

I guess it's unlucky that they call the package firefox. Calling it something unique would make pinning unnecessary and popcon results correct.

[jillesvangurp]

You can also just download the tar ball from Mozilla and run that. It takes care of keeping itself up to date. I do that on Manjaro because I want my updates straight from the source. I'm on the beta channel, so my browser updates frequently and it simply indicates when there is an update and then I can choose when to restart the browser. Works on Ubuntu as well.

[usr1106]

That's what I do currently. But updating itself does not work. Maybe because I did not install it as root?

[dinosaurdynasty]

Pop OS is similar to Ubuntu and doesn't use snap.

[zdragnar]

I'll recommend Pop_OS as well, but it might be overkill.

It depends on what is meant by "family computer" but don't underestimate the usefulness of a cheap chromebook as well. My wife uses hers exclusively, since using the internet is pretty much the only thing she actually uses a computer for.

[usr1106]

The hardware of Chromebooks is more than enough. But as long as I understand something about IT I don't want Google to take away my freedom and lock me out. That would be like a Westerner asking for asylum in China because the party thinks on my behalf.

[forgotpwd16]

>but it might be overkill

In what way? For any desktop usage Ubuntu is suitable for, Pop_OS can do it.

[usr1106]

Not the op, but I guess they meant the hardware specs of a "normal" computer.

Myself I used to buy these little Atoms with eMMC running Windows S. E.g. HP used to have good hardware in that class. Now Windows S has been discontinued and I don't see much choice in the class anymore. Maybe Acer sometimes, but I have zero experience with them.

For Chromebooks there is GalliumOS, but it looks very silent. Not sure whether it is still alive. Last supported model is from 2019.

[usr1106]

Who maintains Pop!_OS and how, based on which process and motivation? For Debian and Ubuntu I understand that to some degree, for Pop!_OS I have very little insight. There is System76, but how many developers can they afford?

[dinosaurdynasty]

https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/people there are 10 people in their github org, it looks like most of them work for System76

[usr1106]

Seems very different from most Linux distros. It's one company, no community.

[cardanome]

Linux Mint would be an easy transitions as it is based on Ubuntu packages but removes the bad part of Ubuntu. No snap there.

[usr1106]

Where do they get Firefox from?

[noisem4ker]

Apparently, straight from Mozilla, thanks to a special deal.

https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4244