[moonchrome]

I mean they basically have a single purpose programming language (AFAIK Flutter is the only relevant use case) and it is taking them years to add ergonomic improvements to the language that would make day to day dev much easier.

Meanwhile they spent colossal effort and broke half of community packages (including a bunch of first party ones) with null safety. I'd say go for low hanging fruit first.

Because the language is so limited it's impossible to solve this via library, unlike say JavaScript.

[kennytilton]

This reminds me so much of the ClojureScript "win". I love that JS is rounding into shape as a serious language, but the version turmoil! CLJS was "done" when it came out, so the CLJS developer is insulated from any churn.

I know little about Dart/Flutter history, but it sounds like ClojureDart might do a lot for Flutter development if only for CLJD's stability.

[satvikpendem]

I'd rather take sound null safety over records. To say it's taking them years is disingenuous when they've mainly been working on null safety all this time, not twiddling their thumbs.