[olyjohn]

I don't know man. I used to work on tons of PPC and early Intel Macs that ran OSX (before iPhone and all that). Those were pretty great machines, and the OS basically just was an OS. No shit software preinstalled on top of it.

The first real shit app was iTunes. And ever since then, the OS has just stagnated while they put more software in to sell music, apps, and cloud storage.

[2muchcoffeeman]

There were plenty of bugs. But there were at least a few releases that addressed these. Snow Leopard is probably the most notable which shipped with no new features. I think I first started on Panther and there was at least 1 upgrade during the PowerPC times that really cleaned things up and improved performance quite a bit.

Which is why I speculate that overall, it might not be better. You had to wait a couple years to get the fixes. Now they probably ship the fixes and new features on a more regular basis.

[hnfong]

Can you name one Intel Mac release that didn't ship with iTunes?

[olyjohn]

You're right. I didn't realize that iTunes even pre-dated OSX.