[natdempk]

I think the way this will work out in practice is basically how the bridges between Patreon + Discord already work, but with better integration to Discord features. Basically the way most of these work today is if you become a Patron you get a role and get added to some private discord channels with other subscribers, but the base server remains accessible to all. This makes sense from a marketing/activity/alignment perspective for everyone and seems likely to continue. Some creators have Discord servers only accessible to subscribers/Patrons already, and there wouldn't be a change there. I think the reality is that nothing really changes here wrt. server operating structures and that a bunch of stuff just becomes more tightly integrated/featured on the Discord side so Discord can make money off it.

[thatguy0900]

Seems like this would be better served with just patreon and only fans integration. Discord could charge the creators to turn it on. Why would I subscribe to someone once on there and then again to them on discord.

[MattDemers]

It depends what the "primary" place is. If poeple go to Patreon to receive a product, and Discord is a sidebar to that, then yeah, keep it to Patreon. If a Discord community is funded with a Patreon, this can be a replacement.

[matai_kolila]

My assumption here is that this is built to replace Patreon entirely.

"Sub to my Discord or sub to my Patreon to get exclusive content!" eventually becomes, "Sub to my Discord to get exclusive content!" and cuts out Patreon entirely.

[unity1001]

You can connect more things to Patreon - your website, custom apps, even software and provide patron-only features from all of those thanks to Patreon. To compete with Patreon, Discord needs to provide all of that.

[rcxdude]

discord is easily the most common integration with Patreon, in fact it's often a strict superset of the value of being a patron (i.e. discord contains all of the content which then gets posted to patreon shortly afterwards). Discord can easily replace patreon for a lot of creators with this.

[hisnameishank]

Not really, the Discord API will probably supply some sort of status per user in a given discord channel.

Discord is already setup for users to interact with server bots on a rich command palate. Bots at this point are just server extensions.

Webhooks have been a thing for ages.

Discord is arguably one of the easiest services to bind to from a developer's perspective.

[unity1001]

> Not really, the Discord API will probably supply some sort of status per user in a given discord channel.

They definitely could. But their rate-limiting schemes cripple any large-size integration. When you have up to a few hundred users, that may work. But if you have thousands of users triggering calls to the Discord API through all the apps that you can connect if Discord even allows it, then you will hit their brick-like rate limits way too fast.

Patreon is much better with that - people can connect all their apps, websites, Vimeo, Discord, Discourse, even desktop software that they distribute, and get them work with their membership at Patreon. There are even GTA servers, GTA mods that distribute member-only benefits to their users via Patreon. I'd even say that its a very good way for desktop software makers to monetize their apps too. Like the PC benchmark software maker OCCT does. (https://www.patreon.com/occt)

[lmm]

I'm sure they will. All those Patreon integrations had to be built too.

[unity1001]

Yeah but Discord's complicated and stringent rate-limiting cripples all integrations. Especially when you try to update guild members' roles en masse - which is critical to any membership based integration.