[pavlov]

It is a sad, terrible irony that Apple whose resurgence began when they acquired the best desktop framework from NeXT and further developed it into a revolutionary mobile one, is now a company that’s famous for how bad their new desktop apps are (Music, new macOS Settings, everything made with Catalyst…)

[marcellus23]

Music is not any worse than iTunes was. And the new Settings app being bad is not exactly consensus — IMO the redesign was much-needed and well executed.

[nickthegreek]

iTunes is a pretty low bar to beat! I would generalize that apple has never gotten music right except for the iPod with that sweeet jog dial.

[marcellus23]

> iTunes is a pretty low bar to beat!

Fair enough, but beside the point — if Music is as good or better than iTunes was, it can hardly be an indictment of the quality of Apple's recent system software.

[adammarples]

I dunno if you can really call Apple famous for how bad the very recently updated macos settings app is. They were pretty famous before that and I don't think it's quite eclipsed them yet but I could be wrong.