[taeric]

That summary is still confusing to me. Rather, "If you select a random person, and then average how many friends all of their friends have, most of the time the latter will be higher." I don't think it holds nearly as strongly in the case of selecting a single neighbor. (I can't say it doesn't hold.)

[aidenn0]

Let's simplify this a bit. Divide people into "lots of friends" (L) and "few friends" (F). Most nodes are F, most edges are F<->L.

Therefore if you randomly select a person, you probably end up with an F. Since most edges are F<->L, following an edge from an F is likely to get you to an L.

[taeric]

I could see a plurality of edges are actually F<->F, though? Such that most people you connect with are connected with everyone else you also connect with. You will just have a few people in any large group that are hyper connected outside of that group. Such that, as likely, you have the same number of friends as any given friend. Similarly, though, most likely you will have fewer friends than the average of all of your friends.

[aidenn0]

Even in that case you increase your chances of selecting an L by using this algorithm as long as (number of F nodes) >> (number of L nodes).

[taeric]

Do you, though? I think I can agree that you are most likely to select an F with your random initial choice. And since the degree of your average L is >> the degree of your average F, it just takes a single L in a highly connected group of Fs to make the general statement true. As such, if you pick an F in a connected group and make a single jump, you are probably not on an L, but another connected F.

This would be similar to how famous you are compared to your friends. On average, your friends are more famous than you. But only because you likely have a few much more famous friends. Such that, a random choice of your friends is not likely to be one of these few. (Agreed that it is higher than that initial selection. But would still be low.)

Edit: Reading your post, I think I can easily agree that you /increase/ your chances of selecting an L by taking a single hop from a random node. I'm more asking if it is better than 50% at that point. Seems like it shouldn't be.

[aidenn0]

Yes, if the plurality of nodes are F<->F and F >> L then the odds are less than 50%.

In a simple case, consider a subgraph with one L connected to all F, and every F is connected to 2 Fs (in addition to their connection to L). You have a 1/3 chance of selecting the L in this case (but since there must be at least 3 Fs to draw this graph, you have no better than a 1/4 chance of selecting an L at random and thus you still find more connected nodes on average by using this algorithm).

[edit]

The above example was too simple as the majority of edges do not contain an L, and in fact you don't improve your odds in the 4-node case (they are the same in that case, but at 5 and more nodes you do). It still shows how a small number of highly connected nodes can dominate rather quickly though.

[taeric]

Cool, that matches my current intuition for this. I'm curious on what the numbers say in realistic social networks. My gut call was that the distinction between "most of your friends have more friends than you do" and "your friends have more friends, on average," is one that is confusing to most people. Myself included.