| > All of these pale in comparison to the history of our my nation You're responding to an argument about why the US sees China as having aggressive ambitions by saying the US is allegedly worse? That is irrelevant to the argument and implicitly accedes to my point. Besides, if the US was the evil empire you allege it is it would just make even more sense that China was seen as an enemy given the recent increase in Chinese international belligerence and influence campaigns. > bombing of civilian infrastructure in Iraq I can only find a single credible example of the US deliberately bombing civilians in Iraq and that was the Al Jazeera office in Baghdad and that assumes you believe the Mirror reporting is accurate. If it's true then that's bad for sure, but it's not exactly Xinjian-level genocide either. I was surprised with how few accidental bombings there were given how badly conceived the war was! > atrocities that was the Vietnam War Vietnamese are still dying from unexploded ordinance etc from that war, but, the Vietnamese are friendly with the United States while distrustful of China. Why is that? Because they have a very very long history of enmity with China, with the most recent conflict being a Chinese invasion of Vietnam in 1979, whereas the USA is seen as preferable to China. Given how terrible the Vietnam War was this stark difference stands out! > our extensive support for dictators in Latin America throughout the 20th century Fair criticism if you don't remember that China props up North Korea, a range of dictatorships and corrupt governments in Africa and is itself a dictatorship over more than a billion people! > When it comes to interfering with elections (and indeed the results of them), we put China to shame. This is true and would be a reason for those other countries to have enmity to the US but we haven't been able to influence Chinese elections because they aren't free elections and their leader is a dictator. This hasn't stopped them attempting to make our elections less free which is a symptom of their aggression towards the United States, the whole point of my original response. > I can't pretend that our military industrial complex has been anything but a threat to countless other nations If by "nothing but a threat to countless other nations" you mean that it's implied the US Military would fight any other country then you're technically correct. If you mean that all they ever do or ever have done is threaten every other group of humans then that is totally ridiculous. NATO is a voluntary defense pact that the US spearheads that Finland and Sweden are currently in the process of enthusiastically joining. Australia and the UK weren't forced at gunpoint to sign on to AUKUS. Dozens of other countries aren't being forced to cooperate on regional security issues. I'll grant the issue is obviously extremely complex but you're denying all the positives which is nonsense. |