[_8j50]

It takes more time and effort than just running the damn script! Is that not good enough?

I mean I want to use containers but on top of setting up the host, they require composing containers (even when ready made for customizations), networking, logging and fight for more memory when using memory hungry stuff in conjunction (like elastic or other db).

If my main job was devops, I suppose I would make myself more valuable by doing everything in containers but when I deploy an app it is because I have to on top of many other duties so being able to not only setup but troubleshoot and fix outages quickly is most important (and I hope a full time devops person, if I ever get one) will help me migrate all that some day so it looks nice and neat.

[idontwantthis]

If you don't want to use containers at all then that's a different question than the one I I was responding to.

[_8j50]

Fair enough.