[nmcfarl]

> You don't get to live in the middle of nowhere unless you are rich and can afford the upfront cost of hundreds of acres of undeveloped land.

However, this level of rich is pretty obtainable for West Coast programmer. In parts of northeast Oregon an undeveloped acre goes for 1-2K, when you buy a few hundred. And couple hundred acres can be purchased with an on grid, but remote house for under $1 million.

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(You probably won’t like the house, and the nice properties mainly sell inside families, and the bank won’t likely give you a mortgage with less than 50% down, and insurance will not be fun. But this is all surmountable.)

[mealkh]

This is just so bizarre by German standards. It shows we live in a densely populated country: my 3 acres are considered a "kingdom" over here by many, and while it is as remote as it can get neighbours would still be in shouting distance. Probably not possible to be really remote here. Anyway, even such a property goes for several 100k here and is advertised for the "vast area". 100 acres would not be possible under 7 figures, I think.

[unwind]

According to my quick search, the area of Germany is 3.6% of the US'. It's many things, including big.

[CPLX]

True. But worth mentioning that Germany is in fact pretty big, as Alaska tends to skew the US number quite a bit.

Germany is twice the size of New England and 16x the size of Massachusetts.

[tenarshins]

Yes, but new england is tiny. It only take four hours to drive across the width of the length of it. (As the crow flies, no accounting for road geography here)

[CPLX]

Maine ain’t tiny.

[robocat]

Nice 100 acres “lifestyle” blocks can be found for €200k in New Zealand, although our government has made it more difficult for non-residents to buy here. For examples: https://www.realestate.co.nz/rural/sale?by=lowest-price&maxp...

Population density of NZ is 20/km2 compared against Germany at 234/km2.

Germans seem to like Golden Bay: they make up about 10% of the population there - cross between hippy and farmer and lifestylers. I think https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tākaka is the biggest town in that area with 1400 people.

About 30% of the population of New Zealand is immigrants (Australia is similar): https://www.visualcapitalist.com/countries-with-the-highest-...

[rcurry]

If you really want to get away from it all, I can recommend areas around the Chiricahua wilderness in AZ. My brother picked up 40 acres for $20k and it’s really beautiful country out there. You can get a few hundred acres for $100k or so if you time it right. On the down side it’s about an hour to the nearest real town.