[greatjack613]

This should not come as a surprise to anyone here. The fact that people on HN still defend china when they clearly got their success through espionage and cheating just shows how much influence XI has on american institutions and social media. I hope everyone just wakes up in time so we can stop this nightmare before we lose everything we hold dear.

[colinsane]

i’d like to hear more about how Xi is influencing the HN perception of these things. it seems a leap to go from “American HNers disagree with many actions by their own government” to “they disagree with this primarily because of foreign influence”. i think the simpler explanation is that there’s a lot of idealists here who take more of a moral absolutism view of things than is historically practical for a state to do: “this anti-China policy Y is silly because US also does terrible things relating to Y”, not caring (at least publicly) which of the two parties is a worse offender to Y.

[mordae]

You should read up on US history. Brits were not very happy about US ignoring their patents. Selfish people just like to kick off the ladder once they've used it to climb up.

We should criticize China for human rights violations, not for copying useful ideas and trying to learn to build tech on their own.

IP should be abolished universaly.