[commoner]

> China does not have concentration camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-...

> its the exact same thing with China's censorship.

No, it's not. In a location with adequate free speech protections, posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse, even if it is a sensitive topic.

Both of the above links (and all of HN) are inaccessible in China without a VPN, and the Great Firewall makes most VPNs and anti-censorship services extremely unreliable in China through heavy throttling and connection resetting.

[unity1001]

In between a wiki article sourced from Anglosaxon and Anglosaxon funded sources and the parliamentarians and ministers of EVERY single muslim majority country who went to Xinjiang and concluded that there were no concentration camps there, I will go with the latter.

> posting content against the ruling government's agenda would not by itself cause the poster to face incarceration or worse

Neither in China nor anywhere else posting anything against the government's 'agenda' does anything unless one is backed by NED. At most you get your post deleted.

[commoner]

There is no country that denies the existence of the concentration/"re-education" camps in Xinjiang.

I'm going to trust Anar Sabit's first-hand experiences in the Xinjiang concentration camps over the claims of an HN user who has an issue with "Anglosaxons". Xinjiang itself is a location where citizens are incarcerated en masse for speaking against the ruling government's agenda, and also for much less than that. You have no evidence that the people trapped in these concentation camps are "backed by NED".

[unity1001]

> There is no country that denies the existence of the concentration/"re-education" camps in Xinjiang.

Every. Single. Muslim. Majority. Country. Did. And they did it at the UN.

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This is what happens if people keep getting their 'truth' from the machine that lied to them about nonexistent WMDs for years.

> You have no evidence that the people trapped in these concentation camps are "backed by NED

If they were backed by the NED, it would have been MUCH better. They are Islamist militants who returned from the CIA's botched Syrian affair, or the militants of the East Turkistan Islamic Movement, which is considered as a terrorist organization by the UN. ONLY the US got them out of its own terrorist list to be able to use them against China.

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Look... The rest of the world does not expect the above level of awareness about geopolitics from your lot. They just expect you to stop feeding on the lies of the machine that has lied to you many times before. How many times do you need to be lied to until you stop believing lies...

[commoner]

Some countries with authoritarian governments used the euphemism "vocational education and training centers" to describe the Xinjiang concentration camps. They did not deny the existence of the concentration/"re-education" camps in Xinjiang.

The approximately 1,000 people in the Turkistan Islamic Party as of 2022 do not justify the imprisonment of over 1 million unrelated people of Uyghur ethnicity and/or Muslim faith in the Xinjiang concentration camps.