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by jacob019 1295 days ago
Prison--no... we do too much of that in this country already. He should be defeated though.
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Do we throw too many people in prison: yes

Do the rich almost always avoid prison: yes

Maybe if we applied laws equally and actually jailed rich people who committed crimes instead of giving them fines/slaps on the wrist we'd have a few more powerful advocates for prison reform. And I'm not talking about sending them to white collar prisons [0], it's absurd how there are 2 sets of justice in the country.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IURcVw--Rg

Nah. Rich people who use hired goons and courts to harass people should be in prison.
I would guess the parent is on-board with proportional harm done for wealth-based thuggery - and that that can be achieved without putting prison on the table.

The potential principle here is that our current version of prison is too inhumane to be a thoughtless, automatic goto.

Yeah, we should only imprison the poor not white collar criminals they're too similar to ourselves.
who about we do not imprison either, only using prison to

1. Separate violent people from society

2. Separate people who through a long pattern of behavior have proven they cant or are unwilling the follow the laws of civil society

Economic status should not be a factor

3. Penalize someone with a penalty that actually matters to them.

Fining a rich person is simply giving them the option to pay for a pass to do something that's supposed to be illegal.

There is a rule in my state that cars have to display license plates on both the front and rear of the car. But one of my cars has a sharp sporty front end and the licence plate bracket would be ugly. So I just eat the ticket I get once in a blue moon. Mentally it's simply my trivial token service charge for getting to have what I want.

I don't know what the fair penalty should be for that infraction, but if the goal is to ensure every vehicle displays plates on both sides because it's actually important, then it's not whatever $50 or $100 I paid maybe once, possibly twice in 20 years. Maybe the fine just needs to be a percentage of income or assets instead of an arbitrary fixed value, or maybe it needs to be some other consequence that I actually feel yet won't unfairly harm someone else more than me for the same wrongdoing. (I can afford to take lyft everywhere for instance, or just stay home even, so even losing my license would inconvenience me slightly, but could be devastating to someone else.) Or if the goal is just to collect a fine and no one cares about the plates, well then job done I guess.

But the point is I don't know if "blocking a public path" should qualify for prison exactly either, but there are other possible justifications for prison than just seperation. It may be simply a consequence that actually matters to the people whos actions you are trying to regulate.

It's not just that he blocked a public path with his signs. He also had his employees harass these men, got them arrested for trespassing, and is suing them for millions of dollars.