[ilyt]

It's sad none (I think?) of the big cloud providers doesn't allow for prepaid account, it would solve both "our idiots thought that blocking long-term paying customers with no human intervention is a good idea" and "I woke up this morning with $20k AWS bill" problems

[fnordpiglet]

Aws has no provision for shutting stuff down for exceeding a budget (or at least when I ran services there). We would rather reverse your $20k bill and keep you alive. I ate huge write downs from small and big customers accidentally blowing themselves up. I remember on guy almost in tears because he knew he would be fired due to his screw up that blew up the bill. It made me proud to help him. Amazon has a ton of serious issues but they are genuinely incentivized to care about customer problems (I.e., you are paid and promoted on how far you go for customers).

[0cf8612b2e1e]

> We would rather reverse your $20k bill and keep you alive

And as a customer, I never want to be in a position where I ever see $megabill. Maybe I might be able to get reversed if the gods smile upon me that day, but it would be incredibly stressful until I had resolutions. Seems an obvious blindside for “customer obsessed”. Anything I might host is practically a joke for which I would gladly have the provider pull the plug if billing suddenly spiked above pre-established threshold. I’ll take the downtime if it helps me sleep at night.

[wingleader]

I've had the exact polar opposite experience on any company running systems with paying customers. Usually it's "don't care what it costs, just fix it" which lines well with AWS' behaviour on this. When downtime costs tens of thousands of dollars _a minute_, people tend to stress less about some inefficiencies like this

[0cf8612b2e1e]

And those customers can choose to ignore the emergency billing shutoff. The rest of us need assurances we do not have an unlimited liability that could strike. My potential spend is under $1k per year. Vastly different cost considerations at play.

[spopejoy]

One qeustion is whether cheap cloud services even make sense for an AWS, as opposed to a Dreamhost (targetting smaller businesses/individuals specifically) or Hetzner/DO.

I would imagine AWSs profit is in servicing large clients using lots of CPU/bandwidth, so the only reason to even bother with small clients is some kind of low-probability funnel for the occasional startup that blows up. Or just a loss-leader strategy for market domination (but only if that small-biz experience is vastly superior to other clouds' offering).

One way or another, small businesses should never trust that big businesses are going to look out for them, for any number of "rational" reasons on the big biz side, especially if it's not clear you're their bread-and-butter.

[ilyt]

I'd still rather not have that issue in the first place. Throw next ~3 months of money onto prepaid account and sleep soundly.

[electroly]

AWS recently added this which could possibly smooth over billing blips, but it doesn't prevent overages beyond the prepaid amount: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/07/aws-allow...