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by smoldesu 1296 days ago
Can you be an ad company and respect your users, though? Google and Microsoft failed to do this, not because they didn't protect their user's identity but because they kept squeezing for more and more cash when the UX was already hurting. I'm not confident that Apple can resist those temptations (judging by the way they treat their own native advertising).
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Someone 1296 days ago
Adding advertising likely will cost them hardware sales. if so, their hardware branch might have enough clout to keep their advertising branch under control.

Phrased another way: adding a few billions of advertising revenue wouldn’t make Apple an advertising company, just as selling smartphones hasn’t made Google a hardware company

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smoldesu 1296 days ago
They already have advertising, at least in MacOS. Every time I put on my headphones I get a pop-up ad for Apple Music, and I can't hide iCloud or Safari's constant nagging to get me to use them.

Everyone has their own limits, but I left the ecosystem after Mojave (with this being one reason).

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kaba0 1296 days ago
I don’t know, is that really advertisement? These seems more akin to a program’s popup of its new features or that you can also go pro. Sure, nitpickingly these are ads, but they are related to the context, not intrusive, and not coming from a third party.

If anything, it is more analogous to my friend telling me about that vacuum cleaner he bought that he finds a great buy when I bring up the topic of vacuum cleaners. Surely, it is still an ad, but you get the difference.

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Someone 1296 days ago
If “Every time I put on my headphones I get a pop-up ad for Apple Music” is true, don’t see how you could call that “not intrusive”.

If I got an advertisement for a new iPhone every time I woke up my current one, IMO ‘intrusive’ would be too kind a word to use, too.

I also think “related to the context” is debatable. Headphones aren’t only used to listen to music.

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kaba0 1296 days ago
> If “Every time I put on my headphones I get a pop-up ad for Apple Music” is true, don’t see how you could call that “not intrusive”.

It is not true, simple as that

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smoldesu 1296 days ago
It's been default for a few years now: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250789620
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