[nerdface]

That’s not really comparable. Tesla make tangible products that are readily sold and actively used all over the world. Their success has been so great that it pushed other companies to move into the EV market. Tesla are known to make premature promises sure, but they do eventually deliver on those promises.

[ProjectArcturis]

Full self driving is only the most prominent example of many unfulfilled promises.

[cbeach]

Err they just rolled it out to the whole of North America

[ProjectArcturis]

“Our goal is, and I feel pretty good about this goal, that we’ll be able to do a demonstration drive of full autonomy all the way from LA to New York, from home in LA to let’s say dropping you off in Time Square in New York, and then having the car go park itself, by the end of next year [2017],” he said on a press call today. “Without the need for a single touch, including the charger.”

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/19/musk-targeting-coast-to-co...

Would you say this promise has been fulfilled?

[cbeach]

No, it's taken much longer than that. But Musk is far closer to this goal than anyone else.

Other solutions rely on geo-fenced known areas, LIDAR sensors (which will never understand the whole picture e.g. coloured traffic lights), and non-generalised AI. What Tesla is shooting for is much more ambitious, and much more likely to succeed in my opinion.

Why be pedantic about forward-looking announcements, rather than celebrating the incredible things Tesla AI has acheived so far (and continues to acheive)? The cars can now navigate competently through city streets. That was sci-fi just a few years ago.

[freejazz]

Taken!=Taking

Also, it's not being pedantic when you point out that someone is over 5 years behind what they promised...

[jrm4]

I can't deny the cheerleading factor, for sure. But we also know there's a LOT of hot air in this company. The question is, does that hot air get replaced with quality, or does the thing deflate? Time will tell.