[stoltzmann]

>The US cannot simply lie about NATO's good intentions, because in Eastern Europe they are not.

NATO is a voluntary defense alliance, and countries from Eastern Europe want to join NATO due to the (don't even say it's only perceived, as history shows over and over again) risk of being invaded by Russia.

The US are not forcing countries to join NATO.

What do you think is not good about NATO's intentions from Eastern Europe's perspective, besides Russia not being able to invade their neighbors anymore?

If you stop Russia, you'll stop the war. They started it, they can also just put their tanks in reverse and get out.

[throwawaymedia]

This is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine. Why do you think the US is pouring money into this war like crazy? There was no threat from Russia before 2007. There were no events to push other countries to join NATO.

[_kbh_]

> Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine

The outpouring of support, and weapons would disagree with this statement.

> Why do you think the US is pouring money into this war like crazy?

The US gets to decimate an opponents military, damage there arms export industry and damage their economy for just surplus military gear.

The US is destroying Russias military for pennies on the dollar.

> There was no threat from Russia before 2007

Georgia and Moldova would disagree but okay.

> There were no events to push other countries to join NATO.

The wars involving Russia invading former USSR states would disagree.