[TechBro8615]

For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook. For business reasons, I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook.

I expect many of these candidates will be laughed out of the room during the negotiating stage for asking for $300k total comp. The good times are over!

[Dirak]

That's a two way street. I equally wouldn't want to work with someone who makes sweeping generalizations.

> For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook.

That's quite a hostile and closed minded take, but an understandable cope for someone who could never hire a FAANG engineer in the first place.

[cozos]

Agree. Sounds like a very biased hiring manager. And they seem to have fantasies about laughing prospective employees out of the room. Doesn't sound like a great place to work - doubt anybody good would be interested to work there in the first place.

[TechBro8615]

Of course it's biased, that's the point: to be biased against people who worked at Facebook.

[FrontierPsych]

>I don't want to hire someone who was one of the worst performers at Facebook.

I get what you are saying, but the worst performer at Facebook is most likely going to be a MUCH better engineer/programmer than a mid-level or low-level technician at YOUR company. Maybe it is true that they don't measure up any more at Facebook, but they might not measure up by 1 or 2% so they got cut. But that is still WAY better than anyone at someone else's company. The workers that get cut are the "A-" GPA employees. The ones with a 4.0 stay.

What is going to happen is that the high-end "A-" employees at the "A" companies are pushed down to the "B" level companies, and the "B" level employees will now be pushed down to "C" level companies. And the "C" level people are going to be pushed out the door. The lowest level workers are going to have the toughest time overall and especially "C" level new hires most of all.

As the saying goes, shit flows downhill, and "C" level employees and new hires are always at the bottom of the totem pole.

[sverona]

> For moral reasons, I don't want to hire someone who worked at Facebook.

No ethical consumption, etc.

[brundolf]

It's also giving these companies way too much credit to assume they managed to only lay off their worst performers

[amusedcyclist]

lol people will be lining up to offer them jobs so I think they'll be just fine

[bergenty]

I’m not sure why you’re celebrating that high paying jobs for workers are over.

[TechBro8615]

Because they never really existed in the first place, except for at a few major corporations that basically monopolized the labor market and forced a choice between morality or high pay.

Meanwhile, the workers who took those jobs deluded themselves into thinking they deserved those salaries based purely on merit, and that their salary would keep increasing throughout their career.

[Ancalagon]

This statement is patently false. Go look at the top paying companies on Levels.fyi for the last 2-3 years. A good portion are not major corporations but rather VC-backed startups. For a while there, Roblox and Robinhood were the ones offering insane compensations and much of FAANG (expecially AA, excluding N) were falling behind.

This also says nothing of the (what I would consider) tier 2/3 companies still offering over $300k TC for senior (5+ yr experience) technical talent. There are _even more_ more well-funded, semi-unicorn startups offering base salary $200k+ plus equity in their startups. In my last job search alone I found 3 of these companies which you've probably never heard of.

The competition for _technical_ talent is fierce.

[anon50118810]

My own experience is that employers are picky. See my recent discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33596779. Lots of divergent experiences there but the general consensus seemed to be that the market is great for talent with a strong network or relevant domain knowledge. Unfortunately for the people recently laid off from FAANG, they're competing with people with the same network and domain knowledge. There's also the question of whether VC investment will remain strong when the big companies are laying people off.

[bergenty]

The biggest corporations in America that hired millions of people? You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.