[AlchemistCamp]

I believe in humanity’s ability to do it.

Also, you completely missed the point. Since his ultimate goal with SpaceX is a multi-planetary future, the only way to make him “fail” at that goal is to ensure a single or zero-planetary future for humanity.

Seems kinda dark.

[mhss]

Now you are redefining what failure looks like. I'd bet most people that don't want 'Elon the bully' to succeed are talking about their businesses failing (e.g Twitter going down). If you're somehow claiming Musk's succeeds even if SpaceX fails as a business but another company from another founder succeeds in making a multi-planetary future, that's quite the mental gymnastics, but, whatever lets you keep the saviour image of Musk you have I suppose.

[AlchemistCamp]

I’m not redefining anything. I’m literally referring to the stated goals for each of those two companies.

Please take a look at the HN guidelines. The personal swipe in your comment violates them.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine.

[mhss]

Thanks for the nudge on the guidelines, you're right.

You are however redefining the meaning in this conversation or just not really aware that no one here wants that 'mission' to fail, we want Elon's methods to fail because they set a bad precedent for current and future leaders.