[hinkley]

Faster than the LuaJIT's interpreter.

People who focus on JIT often focus on the JIT and not the interpreter. Which is a shame because if you make the uncommon paths cheaper then you can tune your code for the hot paths a bit more aggressively. You get fewer situations where you are sacrificing Best Case for Average Case performance.

[cormacrelf]

As in, LuaJIT with the JIT disabled, ie with the `-j off` flag? That would be really good to clarify in the article. They start off talking about how they can generate an interpreter and even a JIT, LuaJIT with its JIT turned on is not benchmarked to provide the necessary perspective, the results summary says “28% faster than the LuaJIT interpreter” before the scope of the research has been clarified, and only if you read through do you discover they did not make it generate JITs (yet). It seems everyone in this thread thinks there is now a faster Lua than LuaJIT. The author didn’t claim anything incorrect, but they did lead people to believe it.

[hinkley]

That's my read at least. There are several points where they are careful to say LuaJIT interpreter, and I don't think that's an accident. Occams Razor says that's what they meant. The gist of the article is an incremental improvement on interpreter loops, not some counterintuitive amazing breakthrough that nobody has heard before. That's consistent with apples to apples comparisons.

[cormacrelf]

I know it's what they meant, because they were very precise about it, just not very accommodating to people unfamiliar with the terrain. This is the kind of intro I had in mind:

> "The standard architecture of a JIT compiler (like V8, Java HotSpot or LuaJIT) includes both a bytecode interpreter, and a system to recompile a function to native code at runtime. The interpreter is the slow path in a JIT compiler, and is also a general bottleneck in a purely-interpreted VM like CPython. Since we are writing a Lua interpreter and LuaJIT's is the state of the art, the baseline for performance here will be LuaJIT with its JIT turned off."

This means the same thing as the whole "28% faster than LuaJIT's interpreter" business, but nobody comes away from reading that thinking this is faster than LuaJIT as a whole.

[sushibowl]

LuaJIT actually has a really fast and well-optimized interpreter though, and the article acknowledges this. The reason this interpreter has such great performance isn't directly because they automatically generate the assembly. The majority of the performance gain is because they implemented inline caching, an optimization that LuaJIT doesn't have:

> A lot of LJR’s speedup over LuaJIT interpreter comes from our support of inline caching. We have rewritten the Lua runtime from scratch. In LJR, table objects are not stored as a plain hash table with an array part. Instead, our table implementation employed hidden classes, using a design mostly mirroring the hidden class design in JavaScriptCore. > > Hidden class allows efficient inline caching, a technique that drastically speeds up table operations.