[jdoliner]

This feels a lot like the old canard that there's no such thing as altruism because altruistic people get joy out of acting altruistically and thus their altruism is really just selfishness. Which is ridiculous because the act of taking joy is itself the altruism, i.e. an altruist is the type of person who can take joy in things that benefit others rather than themselves, the joy doesn't negate the altruism, it is the altruism.

That being said EA has clearly gone completely off the rails and FTX should be the final nail in the coffin. It's become a way for nerdy people to do stats and thought experiments and pretend they're doing something altruistic. EA will never be net positive given the massive negative that's been done by SBF and FTX.