[giraffe_lady]

Same argument works for banning pedestrians from streets that cars use though. What kind of world are we trying to make here.

[philwelch]

We do ban pedestrians from the streets; that’s what sidewalks are for.

[frosted-flakes]

Sidewalks don't mean you're not allowed to walk on the street. Streets are for everyone, including cyclists and pedestrians.

[shepherdjerred]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking#United_States

[giraffe_lady]

Could link to a lot of american perversions if you wanted to but that's a very narrow "we."

[shepherdjerred]

There are plenty of other countries on that page with similar laws.

> In Zimbabwe, jaywalking is illegal, as per the traffic laws gazetted in 2013 by the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Development.

> In recent years, jaywalking has become more strictly controlled in China as car traffic increased. Police have tested facial recognition to identify jaywalkers.

Italy:

> Pedestrians are allowed to cross a street without any recognised crossing point only if there are no zebra crossings within a range of 100 m

[philwelch]

TFA is published by the US Department of Transportation.

[giraffe_lady]

My point was more that "things that americans do", "things that everyone does", and "things we should be doing" is a venn diagram with a very small center when it comes to car use.

[giraffe_lady]

Not all streets have sidewalks but you can still walk on them....