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by p1peridine 1300 days ago
> Also, the start menu search functionality works flawlessly for me, always showing me the app or file I want.

It took the interns at Microsoft, what, nearly 10 years to fix the whole search function fiasco? Not impressive, and a working search function can not be considered a feature.

> Previously if you wanted to go into the windows registry editor, you had to know the right incantation, but now, all you have to do is hit the Windows/Meta key and type 'reg'

The same search, but on Windows 10 with Open Shell [0]: https://i.imgur.com/YyxIzcO.png

And in my opinion, the start menu is much better looking: https://i.imgur.com/NeXwFlM.png

> it even shows you power-user stuff really intuitively.

Examples?

In my circles I can't think of a single developer and/or power-user that use, or plan on using Windows 11 (except in a virtual machine for quick compatibility-testing). We're all on micropatched W7's or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - otherwise Linux. W11 has sort of become one of the topics we joke about during lunch.

Power-users do not care about a cool and stylish UI, new icons or a simple working search function.

> A lot of these blog posts (like many comments in this thread sadly) are low effort hate/FUD for farming clickbait/karma rather than objective analysis.

ghacks has been covering Windows for many years. It's also not clickbait and MS are turning the operating system into an ad platform, unfortunately.

[0] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

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>We're all on micropatched W7's or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - otherwise Linux. W11 has sort of become one of the topics we joke about during lunch.

Look, I wasn't tryin to start a Windows 7 vs 10 vs 11 vs MacOS vs Linux holy war, I was just pointing out that contrary to the article, I have yet to see any ads in the Windows 11 start menu, and the start menu search function works flawlessly on Windows 11 for me, contrary to what this shallow blog article which had no substance backed by tests and evidence.

>It took the interns at Microsoft, what, nearly 10 years to fix the whole search function fiasco? Not impressive, and a working search function can not be considered a feature.

As long as it works flawlessly for me in the present day, what difference does the past 10 years make for me? Microsoft devs aren't paid by my wages and I always judge the current version of any tech product, not some relics form the past. Linux also works great now for gaming, so who cares it didn't work 10 years ago?

>Power-users do not care about a cool and stylish UI, new icons or a simple working search function.

Average Joe users who user their PC for entertainment and work, with a life outside of micropatching their OS, do care about things being simple and working out of the box, and that's the target audience for such an OS. Powerusers are a special breed no company targets because they can never be pleased so it's never profitable. They have GNU/Linux for that.

> contrary to what this shallow blog article posted with no substance.

We'll see. If I'm not mistaken the author has written books on Windows even. Why would he lie about something so stupid? ghacks is not a blog it's a tech news site and pretty well known. Perhaps you don't like it because of the sites critical view regarding Windows?

> Average Joe users who user their PC for entertainment and work

Don't bring up average Joe - we're talking about power-users, you were the one who brought up 'power-user stuff' and that's what I quoted you on. I wanted to share the perspective of someone who do not share your praise and excitement for W11. Many seem to not share your experience that is an ad free, lovely OS.

>Many seem to not share your experience that is an ad free, lovely OS.

Because many just love to shit on it without having used it lately, because hating everything Microsoft is a timeless trend. Just like hating Nickelback and Internet Explorer. You must hate them because the internet said so, otherwise you get downvoted, to teach you to fall in line with the official party line.

People would also hate Edge despite benchmarks showing its latest iterations, even before the transition to chromium, as being one of the fastest and most performat browsers out there. If Microsoft would cure cancer tomorrow, people would still hate them just because.

Therefore the opinion of various heavily biased internet swarm minds is largely irelevant and should be taken with a glorious boulder of salt.

Don't get me wrong, I hate on Microsoft enough when they deserve it, but, as a long time Windows and Linux user, I can't really fault W11 as an OS as it's the best windows so far by a long shot IMHO.

I also hated W11 when I installed it a year ago, but since then all updates brough only improvements. I never though I'd say this but it's now a much better alternative to windows 10 for both coding and entertainment, it has put me off from switching to Linux fully, that, and Fedora and OpenSUSE deciding to remove VA-API hardware acceleration for AMD users.

I get the logic regarding hating on a product because it's trendy, however, I've followed MS Windows for a long time and more importantly listened to people around me, skilled teams of Windows software developers; with many different personalities and backgrounds; GUI designers, system driver devs, kernel devs, windows internals experts, and what do we all seem to have in common? We do not like Windows 11. Many of us used to praise Windows back in the day (WIN2K-XP-7 era).

To be frank with you, MS deserves all the criticism and I truly believe the 'biased internet swarm minds' to be correct this one time. Agree to disagree.

> People would also hate Edge despite benchmarks showing its latest iterations, even before the transition to chromium, as being one of the fastest and most performat browsers out there.

No Firefox is but it depends on the hardware. I'd encourage anyone to do their own benchmark - don't let anyone fool you with these paid benchmark guru sites.