[P_I_Staker]

Yeah I would argue ADHD is almost self diagnoseable. The biggest issue is similarity with depression or bipolar.

ADHD people can seem more bipolar than bipolar people, because the average person doesn't understand these conditions. They would observe someone that's very mercurial and moody, and say it's definitely bipolar.

Bipolar is a state that lasts for and extended time, days to weeks. It doesn't mean you're euphoric in the morning, but depressed two hours later. That could be many things including ADHD.

[FollowingTheDao]

> ADHD people can seem more bipolar than bipolar people

As someone living with Schizoaffective Bipolar Disorder I cannot disagree with this more. I know many people with ADHD and they all are nothing like me.

> Bipolar is a state that lasts for and extended time, days to weeks. It doesn't mean you're euphoric in the morning, but depressed two hours later.

This is not true either for all of us. I have episodes of ultra rapid cycling that means my cycles can be as quick a two hours.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9702745/

[P_I_Staker]

Hey good to know bud. I think there's lots of information out there that says otherwise, but I know WebMD, Mayo, ect. can be tricky.

I was speaking to the perception of ADHD. Hair trigger moods are often interpreted as "bipolar"... I'm talking from experience of ADHD symptoms being seen as bipolar.

I wasn't trying to say anyone was just like you :). Just that some ADHD symptoms can be misinterpreted as bipolar, which I'm confident is true.

I'm very interested in the information you provided and appreciate you taking the time to discuses. This could be useful information! Hope you're doing well.

[FollowingTheDao]

> Just that some ADHD symptoms can be misinterpreted as bipolar, which I'm confident is true.

By lay people yes, I would assume so, but most people without a mood disorder have no idea. But msitaking ADHD for Bipolar is much less likely by psychiatrists. I am sure it goes both ways so sorry for painting an overly broad brush, but I have been in the field for a while. ADHD is sort of a thing right now so the trend is misdiagnosis of ADHD.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21318193/

"ADHD was overdiagnosed (all patients with ADHD had received the diagnosis, as did 38% of patients with MDD and 29% of patients with BD, respectively),"

Just a anecdote. Both myself and my nephew were "diagnosed" with ADHD, and both ta the same young age. They gave us both ADHD meds and it led to a horrible manic episode for me and it led to my nephew's suicide.

[P_I_Staker]

I see. This is good to know. I don't know about your nephew's condition, or if there were other issues: drugs, personal problems, etc. I also have a family member who suffered a similar fate, but I think he was addicted to illicit STIMs. Sorry for your loss.

I'm trying to get put on these meds, because I know how effective they are for me. That said, I will listen to your warning, and your nephews experience. I appreciate the reasonable conversation.

[FollowingTheDao]

My nephew was like the rest of my family; genetics and bad environment (diet, EMFs). Then bad medicine.

GCH1, NOS1AP, and CACNA1C are three of the main genes causing our sensitivities and mood disorders.

Thanks and good luck.