[thayne]

Well, the verbification of the word google introduces its own difficulties there.

The ideal would be for the voice assistant to have some completely unique word, ideally with sound combinations that are very rare in your native language. And if for some reason, that still doesn't work for you, have a way to change it. Or maybe just not have a default, and require users to pick their own keyword.

[happymellon]

> Computer! Earl Grey. Hot.

I can't think of many words that rhyme with computer so would get picked up.

[pbhjpbhj]

Muh brand identity/recognition though.

There aren't many legitimate ways to have people audibly self hypnotise themselves using your brand.

It's very black mirror.

[DangitBobby]

My roommate had an Alexa and we changed the wake word to computer... Didn't last long. Apparently the word computer comes up on casual conversation much more than you probably think.

[billpg]

Welcome to the life of someone actually called Alexa.

[benwad]

Ok Google, Google "Google"

[another-dave]

The 21st century version of Buffalo buffalo buffalo...

[withinboredom]

In English, there’s only one word in the entire language with a ts sound (pizza) that’s not at the end. They probably could have come up with a name utilizing that fact, making wake words super “easy” to recognize and hard to accidentally say.

[YurgenJurgensen]

Just off the top of my head, depending on accent or dialect: "spritzer", "waltzer", "Mitsubishi", "matzos", "mitzvah".

[eesmith]

A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has:

  PIZZA  P IY1 T S AH0

Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end"

  % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l
       991

Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two sounds after the " T S ":

  % grep -E " T S [A-Z0-9]+ [A-Z0-9]+" cmudict-0.7b | wc -l
       853

These include: bestseller, blitzkrieg, boatswain, bootstrap, chutzpah, craftsman, draftsmanship, footstep, hotspot, itself, jetstream, outscore, outsell, outside, postscript, shirtsleeve, shortstop, sportsmanship, statesmen, tsar, tsunami, whatsoever, yachtsman, and zeitgeist.

(It doesn't have "spritzer" in the list, and uses the spelling "matzoh" instead of "matzo". I didn't look for a more complete list of word pronunciations.)

Finally, two words with two occurrences of the "ts" sound, neither at the end:

  % grep -E " T S .*T S " cmudict-0.7b
  ITSY-BITSY  IH2 T S IY0 B IH1 T S IY0
  TSETSE  T S IY1 T S IY0

[sph]

"boatswain" should be pronounced "bosun".

[eesmith]

You're right. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain says "formerly and dialectally also /ˈboʊtsweɪn/ BOHT-swayn", the dictionaries I checked do not list that alternative.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain even comments:

> Phonetic spelling bo'sun/bosun is attested from 1840. Fowler [1926] writes, "The nautical pronunciation (bō'sn) has become so general that to avoid it is more affected than to use it."

[withinboredom]

Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!

[eesmith]

It certainly seems your Russian teacher wasn't fond of schnitzel nor seltzer.

[withinboredom]

I was literally laughing so hard from this comment. Thanks for brightening my day.

[YurgenJurgensen]

"Zeitgeist" seems like a bug, I've never heard anyone pronounce the leading 'z' as 'ˈts' in English, and doing so as a non-German might even be seen as 'over-pronuciation'.

[eesmith]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation gives two pronunciations:

Pronunciation (Received Pronunciation, General American) IPA(key): /ˈtsaɪtˌɡaɪst/, /ˈzaɪtˌɡaɪst/

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist also gives two: ˈtsīt-ˌgīst ˈzīt-

I tried to get statistics from listening to https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english? but found I have a hard time distinguishing the two forms.

[denton-scratch]

Seems implausible.

~ Fatso

~ Pitstop

~ Katsup

~ Yachtsman

~ Scotsmen

~ Batsman

There don't seem to be many, admittedly.

[xnorswap]

That fact seems dubious, does tzatziki not count?

[eCa]

Is tzatziki the only word that both starts and contains, but doesn’t end, with ts sound?

[eesmith]

tsetse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsetse_fly

[denton-scratch]

Tzatziki, Tsetse and Tzar are not English words; OP said there was just one English word (which he identified as "pizza", which isn't an English word).

[xnorswap]

It has foreign roots but it's surely an English word by any workable definition.

[ConceptJunkie]

That is trivially not true.

[deafpolygon]

"you should google that!"

" I don't understand your query. "