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I disagree. We do care. We just think some things are savable, and some not. That's why there's pressure on Iran now, and Russia now. That's why the west bitches and moans about the US doing immoral shit. Not because it's the worst, but because we think there's a chance they might care. Unlike Saudi Arabia, which we pretty much write off as total monsters.

[EGreg]

So we have had sanctions on Iran for decades because ae actually think they’re more moral than Saudis and will eventually come around, rather than having to do with Saudis being our allies and selling oil cor dollars while Iranians overthrew the Shah?

I think during the Shah times, if Iran was bombing people we’d also look the other way. We looked the other way when Afghanistan did genocidal rapes of Bangladesh in their war of independence…

And in your view btw who are moral monsters — Arabs vs Persians or their governments?