[kumarvvr]

Adam Neumann had a failed business model. He explained his business model. Investors believed in the business model. They invested. But the business model, and his PR image dents caused them to lose money.

Holmes had a vision of a business model. She explained her business model and brought on a board of directors of leering old farts. Investors also believed in the vision and invested in her to achieve the vision. She tried to achieve her vision, but failed miserably. Instead of telling investors and regulators and business partners about the failure, she hid the failure, covered up by using industry standard practices for medical testing, passing them off as testing from her products. As a cherry on the top, she also used her comically in-accurate products to give actual test results to patients. As a cherry on top of the cherry, all the while this was happening, she had an affair with another investor, went on a PR blitz of fame whoring and the like.

When the chickens came to roost, she pitched up her voice, started wearing feminine colorful dresses, got pregnant for sad puppy new mom face points.

She is a psychopath and a danger to society.

[ergocoder]

You forgot that she also hired people to harass her own employees. One committed suicide.

Comparing Holmes to Neumann is an insult to even Neumann.

[foxhill]

does this not describe - modulo some specifics - elon musk? where is full self driving? solar roof tiles? the manned mars landing?

holmes deserves punishment on some level, certainly, although honestly i feel 10+ years might be a bit much.

where is this zeal for her male analogues? they’re all playing the same game.

[perlgeek]

I'm not a Musk fan these days, but I have to admit that he did create things of value. Cheap transport to orbit, some pivotal electric cars. Sure, he promised more, but at least he delivered something of value.

The full self driving claim, that one could be fraudulent.

As for the vision to go to Mars? Might still be achievable, and I don't think he had customers pay for that yet.

In contrast, neither FTX nor Theranos created lasting value.

[quickthrower2]

Failing to deliver is not a crime. Otherwise half of SV would be in the slammer.

[shapefrog]

We will have full self testing theranos machines by the end of the year.