[larsonnn]

I’m don’t understanding the claim of Matrix being decentralised. In the end I host a server and you talk with me. I give you the choice of choosing the authentication. For that I need an account at the authentication provider like Microsoft.

So all authenticate with Microsoft.

I create a user for them at my server which is still be needed to have the at least the timeline saved.

At which point I have decentralisation here?

And because I can’t handle the traffic on my raspberry I host this on a PaaS/SaaS provider like AWS.

That would assume all web servers are decentralised web3 technologies.

[SaltySolomon]

No, you don't need a single authentication provider, you can use more or less what you want/need and there is nothing for it mandatory in the protocol.

What currently is kinda centralized is an identity matching service, but even that is completly optional and will bec replaced by something more federated at some point.

[Arathorn]

what? you don't need an authentication provider like Microsoft to use Matrix! You just sign up with a username/password on the server :)

[encryptluks2]

It isn't and Matrix is about as decentralized as Gmail or Microsoft Outlook.

[Arathorn]

if the amount of FUD that gets levelled against Matrix was converted into work on other solutions, Matrix wouldn’t need to exist.

[encryptluks2]

Other solutions exists. XMPP has been around for a long time.