[dahdum]

> The workers were getting to uppity, expecting things like actual work-life balance.

Which of these large companies would you say have a poor work-life balance on average? Google, Facebook, Adobe, Microsoft, and others have reputations as rest-and-vest retirement homes. I've heard Netflix can be challenging, along with some parts of Apple, but nothing like startups, investment banking, or big law.

Twitter before Elon was more like "rest" since they were vesting garbage, but he's trying to morph them into Tesla, which does have a terrible reputation for balance.

[alfalfasprout]

Amazon and FB have never been "rest and vest". Honestly google in most teams isn't like that either.

[dahdum]

I agree about Amazon, but I've definitely heard FB thrown about as rest-and-vest regularly since IPO, and that's the impression I've gotten from developers I've met working there since.

I have heard the AI and other non-FB/IG parts of Meta are pretty grindy-but-worth-it though.

[skyde]

I worked in Investment banking, at Microsoft and Amazon. I can tell you majority of team at Amazon and facebook have 0 work life balance.

When you work in Investment banking you are not expected to get 3 call at 3am every night including weekend and have to wake up get a coffee and work for 3+ hours to fix the problem the intern or idiot from another team (not your team) caused.

in Investment banking you can take a 2 week vacation without the whole company catching fire.