[TedKroft]

Yea but you have to commit to spending hours on hold with the expectation that they might not cave. I've gone back in forth with airlines before only to get nothing, it's not worth the time often. There should be some law that refunds (and many other business operations) should be automatic and can't be gatekept with several layers of phone systems, lies about only giving you a restricted voucher, and holds of more than X minutes.