[emptyparadise]

dude that's just "taking it" - either you lick the boots of your boss or you resign

but then if you don't try to push for anything at work (aka doing anything more than what's expected of your role) that's quiet quitting

you just can't win

also elon musk owned twitter for like 3 weeks how the hell was that guy supposed to know that as a mere mortal you're supposed to just let elon musk shit on your work and ruin your reputation in public then fire you anyway after you stay silent

if every choice makes you bad then it's at least nice to get fired publicly so you can line up a new job in replies to the tweet that got you fired

[kcplate]

It may be hard to swallow but it’s not “your work”, it’s his work. He paid a shit ton of money to call it his and if he wants to shit on what he owns, so be it, it’s his. He paid for the privilege.

Those employees don’t get to take their contribution out of the source when they leave—so while they might feel a sense of ownership, their contributions belong to Elon the minute they transfer them from their brain to the company property they are using.

I am pretty confident that publicly criticizing your boss and getting fired might appeal to a lot of folks on HN, but it’s not going to be looked at very favorably by most hiring managers out there.

[emptyparadise]

"your work" as in work that you did, not work that you own. a picasso painting is still a picasso painting even in a private collection. if your next line is "coding is just work and not art" then please tone down the capitalism.

if the "boss is always right or quit" thing is right then wouldn't hiring managers also have a problem if your boss publicly insults your work? you're doomed either way, self-defense or not! but so far what you're saying does not seem to hold true - replies to fired engineers are full of kindness and job offers.

[kcplate]

> "your work" as in work that you did, not work that you own. a picasso painting is still a picasso painting even in a private collection. if your next line is "coding is just work and not art" then please tone down the capitalism

First, I made no such claim about coding, work, art, capitalism, or otherwise so lets not try and put words into my mouth that was never said, or even implied.

Second, if you are an artist and someone has paid and is continuing to pay you to generate more art…if you cannot handle their criticism (valid or not) of that art, you have the choice to leave and go elsewhere to create art on your own, or find another benefactor that appreciates you.

My criticism is not of these two engineers, they did what they did and I frankly don’t care. Their actions resulted in an obvious and expected consequence that would have happened anywhere and for any other boss. My criticism is for the people here on HN who feel that they should not have been fired. That is frankly ridiculous.